Updated!! Audio Recordings of Bishop Elliott's talk available for download. If we get his lecture notes, we will post a new article with the notes and the recordings all in one handy place.Click here for part one of a lecture given by Bishop Peter Elliott, Auxiliary of the Diocese of Melbourne, Australia on September 29th, 2012 at St. Mary of Victories Church in St. Louis Missouri. In this part of the lecture, his Excellency addresses the vision of Pope Benedict XVI concerning the liturgy. He answers a couple of questions at the end. This part of the lecture lasts about 40 minutes.
Click here for part two of a lecture given by Bishop Peter Elliott, Auxiliary of the Diocese of Melbourne, Australia on September 29th, 2012 at St. Mary of Victories Church in St. Louis Missouri. In this part of the lecture, his Excellency addresses the specific teachings of Pope Benedict XVI concerning the liturgy. He answers many questions at the end. This part of the lecture lasts about 55 minutes.
The St. Louis Chapter of the Latin Liturgy Association is pleased to welcome liturgist Bishop Peter Elliot to St. Louis Saturday and Sunday, September 29th & 30th, 2012 for a public lecture and Holy Mass at Historic St. Mary of Victories Chapel downtown. His Excellency is an international authority on liturgy, and on the Anglican Ordinariates now authorized by Pope Benedict XVI. The public is invited; free of charge.
The lecture is titled “Benedict XVI and the Liturgy: Vision and Practice” and will take place Saturday evening, September 29th at 7:30 PM.
Bishop Elliot will celebrate Holy Mass in the Ordinary Form in Latin at 9 AM on Sunday, September 30th.
Both will take place at historic St. Mary of Victories Chapel 744 South 3rd Street, in downtown St. Louis (Map & Directions). A security patrol will be provided.
Bishop Elliott's books, Ceremonies of the Modern Roman Rite and Ceremonies of the Liturgical Year are standard works everywhere for liturgists of the ordinary form. He is also the author of Let Us Pray To The Lord, a very fine collection of Prayers of the Faithful that cover every week of the three-year Sunday cycle, with intercessions tailored for the readings of each Sunday.
Born in 1943, Bishop Peter Elliot is the son of an Anglo-Catholic clergyman in Victoria, Australia. Bishop Elliot converted to Catholicism while studying at Oxford. A more complete biography and links to a few articles by His Excellency may be found by clicking here. What the biography does not tell you about his career at the Pontifical Lateran University is that he was graduated summa cum laude with a doctorate (S.T.D.) for a thesis on the sacramentality of marriage which was later published commercially. Bishop Elliot is also a cat lover and it may be possible he is the only human being on earth loved by a cat. Click on the painting for the story behind the portrait.The Latin Liturgy Association (LLA) was founded in 1975 in St. Louis by Credo Advisory Board member Dr. James Hitchcock and other laity and clergy to promote the celebration of the Mass and the Liturgy of the Hours in the Latin language. These celebrations include both the Ordinary Form (sometimes called “Novus Ordo”) and the Extraordinary Form (sometimes called Tridentine Latin Mass). The Latin Mass in both forms is currently available in the St. Louis metropolitan area: the Ordinary Form at St. Mary of Victories chapel; and the Extraordinary Form at St. Francis de Sales Oratory, the Oratory of Sts. Gregory and Augustine, the Church of the Little Flower, and Holy Family Log Church (in Cahokia).
The national organization maintains a web-site, sponsors periodic national conventions (the last one in Detroit in 2010), and publishes quarterly newsletters. In June, 1991, the LLA received the apostolic benediction of Pope John Paul II, for its efforts on behalf of good liturgy.
The local St. Louis-Belleville chapter meets semi-annually (spring and fall) at various locations within the two dioceses that offer liturgies in Latin. Meetings are open to the general public, and usually feature a speaker on a topic related to Latin or liturgy. For more information, contact Regina Morris at morrisrp@swbell.net .
I saw Bishop Peter Elliot at the September 29, 12 event on saturday, and thought he had misunderstood me about the comment about division in this book called St. Luke of the visit with Pope Benedict XVI, and thought maybe I came with a stinky attitude about something against him, but first time meeting him in person.I simply sat in the front during the 2hr lecture about the church role of leadership. I thought the church was haunted from being dated history of the 1843 existed in St. Louis. He mention that St. Luke was never read by the pope in mass, but he has a hidden agenda, and would act false like a cardinal in color purple like me, and to become colored blinded about me in the meeting.
ReplyDeletePut blessings on him, and was ready to return home.
Hi Candace,
ReplyDeleteI tried to get your attention after the talk but you'd gone by the time I'd gotten the recording machine attended-to. I'm glad you checked-in here. I'm afraid I (still) don't know what book you're talking about, which does not mean very much because there are lots of books. Maybe you could give us a link to it from Amazon or something so we know what book you're talking about. That would help.
You'd said you didn't agree with something in the book and (I think) we all understood you to mean the book was written by the pope. Bishop Elliott said there are things we're free to disagree with even though they're written by the pope. I thought his Excellency tried to be responsive to you even though he didn't know what book you were talking about -- don't you think so?
There will be a recording of the talk up on the Credo website in a few days, after we get and intro made and divide it into sections to make it easier for people to download and listen to.
I mention the book called St. Luke Pope Benedict visit to America, and I founded in the end text of the book about Jesus is the cause of divison, so I may not agree with the statement, but have right to express how I feel at any meeting w/o attack. The word colorblinded- is not seeing clear my cultural influence of literacy in one meeting. I have educational experiences to express my opinions, and you may not should take my comments to heart.
ReplyDeleteBishop Peter Elliot misunderstood me. OOOOPS! I was no threat to the meeting at no time, and love to make friends.
St. Luke Pope Benedict XVI visit to America by the Bible society.
ReplyDeleteI have no reason to talk about Bishop Peter Elliot in no way to liberate my own thought against him to not do more meetings in St. Louis, so I simply enjoyed his visit, and learn a lot about the pope/church, I thank him for holding this meeting.
Thanks for following up Candace.
ReplyDeleteI hope you did not feel attacked -- I'm sure that was nobody's intent, especially Bishop Elliott's. I am very sorry if you did feel attacked.
I did not know what book you were talking about, but maybe it is this:
American Bible Society Welcomes Pope Benedict XVI to America; Special Printing of Gospel of Luke Given to Worshippers at Special Events
The language in this translation of the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ according to St. Luke may be unfamiliar to you: it is the Good News Bible in Today's English Version -- it uses a translation style called Dynamic Equivalence and you might say it sometimes comes closer to paraphrase than to translation. Click here for an OK-but-not-great Wikipedia article on bible translation styles.
In the Gospel according to St. Luke we find these words of our Lord Himself concerning division (I'll use the New American Bible text since it is what we Catholics normally use at Holy Mass in the USA)
Luke 12:51-53 Do you think that I have come to establish peace on the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. [52] From now on a household of five will be divided, three against two and two against three; [53] father will be divided against his son and a son against his father, a mother against her daughter and a daughter against her mother, a mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
You can read The Good News Translation by clicking here. In this passage, the language is very similar between the two versions.
So Jesus Himself said that He would "establish division" even within families. This is pretty serious and is something we should work to understand.
The American Bible Society might have printed some commentary along with the Gospel according to Luke -- I don't know and I don't know what it might've said. But that would be coming from them, not from the Pope or from the Church.
Does this help?
The pope maybe have his own way how he see his world in a misunderstanding view points about his own translations, and who he serves in the Vatican and sometime with an attitude, but he is never the only one to be blamed for this type of attitude. We all had made mistakes and bad choices in our life, but we may soon forget it. I think to hold an offense from the past of doing something contrary to a belief system may cause the rise of cancer to develop of unforgiveness.I see the bishops.and the pope to no offense at all, but just title to own opinion. On one part of a page in the book i saw Pope Benedict signature.
ReplyDeleteDoes this help?
No, Candace, I'm afraid I don't understand you. If you still have this book and you'd like to talk it over, we can arrange to meet (say) at a St. Louis Bread Company -- you can bring the book with you and we'll look at it together. You can send contact information by clicking here to send an e-mail message. If you don't want to, that's OK too. Just let me know.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry about this,so this issue became to be very old, and outdated at this time, but I thank you for given me time to share my views about the meeting.
ReplyDeleteThis book had taught me between the false and the real, and I must not come under that reading of that text at the end of the book that the Ant - Christ would consider at this time. All have rights to share a thought about a phrase/reading of objective.
Thank you,
No longer on the ballot to be talked about at this time.
OK then, I just want to be sure your concerns are addressed.
ReplyDeletePeace be with you.
Also with yoou, so I mau give peace to certainty to proclaim no judgement for the cause of comments made at this time, so thank you very much, and remember the death of Pope John 2 it still haunts me.
ReplyDeleteHey when there is going to be another meeting this summer with Bishop Peter Elliot 2013?
ReplyDeleteNext time please provide refreshments for a 2 hr. meeting.
Thank you